Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeddah Formula 2 round

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:39, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jeddah Formula 2 round

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Pretty much a duplicate of 2021 Jeddah Formula 2 round. Does not add anything new other than a placeholder for future year results. noq (talk) 14:31, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Motorsport-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:07, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Saudi Arabia-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:07, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and merge 2021 Jeddah Formula 2 round into this article. The individual race (2021 Jeddah Formula 2 round) is not independently notable from the overall topic on the race (Jeddah Formula 2 round), which is notable and passes GNG with independent coverage from ESPN, RACER and Jalopnik. -"Ghost of Dan Gurney" 18:18, 15 December 2021 (UTC) - Striken after below discussion with SSSB -"Ghost of Dan Gurney" 16:26, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep; since the author has created other pages for other Formula 2 rounds, this page would be also kept, since the circuit will have another F2 round in 2022. Apeiro94
The fact that someone has created other similar pages has no bearing on the notability of this page. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 20:02, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Article fails GNG. The Keep and Merge nomination above does not specify which article it is to be merged to. Defective nomination. --Whiteguru (talk) 21:05, 15 December 2021 (UTC)DSSD[reply]

I thought I very clearly specified that 2021 Jeddah Formula 2 round should be merged into Jeddah Formula 2 round. -"Ghost of Dan Gurney" 21:52, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete fails WP:GNG. I have the opposite opinion of GhostOfDanGurney. Individual races pass may just pass GNG (such as the 2021 Jeddah Formula 2 round) but a collective article definitely doesn't, every potential source talks about specific editions (the only edition so far). SSSB (talk) 08:42, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I realize they are all different sub-projects, but generally, at least for the NASCAR and IndyCar sides, there are articles at the overall topic on the race (ie Music City Grand Prix and Ally 400) before there is one for the individual race (2021 Big Machine Music City Grand Prix and 2021 Ally 400 - using these specific examples as they are also new-for-2021 races like the subject in question). That is the basis for my rationale above. -"Ghost of Dan Gurney" 15:56, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
For one offs that makes very little sense - as all the sources will be talking about a specific event. If it's the first of a series of races (i.e. if there will be a 2022 race) it could work, and it's the approach we take for F1. But the reason that this doesn't work here (even though there will be a series of races in Jeddah) is because it is a support series. (Correct me if I'm wrong) but there is no source that talks about the event in general (i.e. no headline reads "F2 to race in Jeddah till 2022.) so I don't see how the event in general meets WP:GNG. Although, I guess it could be a disambiguation (like Sakhir Formula 2 round used to be, Special:Permalink/1026300182) SSSB (talk) 16:12, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, you're 100% right, actually. I took another look and for sure the RACER and Jalopnik sources are talking about a start crash in the individual race. Other sources I'm finding on the overall topic are also WP:ROUTINE and therefore not eligible towards GNG. -"Ghost of Dan Gurney" 16:26, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - While I agree that the 2021 race is notable, I don't think the event itself is notable. The same goes for many of the other "xxx Formula 2 round" articles which have been recently created. Coverage relates to the specific races, not the broad event. A7V2 (talk) 00:09, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeddah Formula 2 round

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