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Feb 13, 2013 11:02 AM
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WTH?

Now like every freaking one is a titan or what? Sigh i hate these sort of surprises. :/

Why is Reiner a titan now? What nonsense is this? It was just the last 2 chapters where he was shitting his pants to not get killed and now it turns out he is a titan?

Also why the hell does he even gets suspicious of Ymir being able to read that weird writing 2 chapters ago?

Things just don't add up anymore. Sigh.


Anyways it seems like theres a hard fight ahead for the rescue team and the secrets we waited so much to find out (now from Ymir) will probably have to wait few more chapters to finally come out. T_T


Oh and good luck Eren, you gonna need it in a 2 on 1 titan fight.
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Feb 13, 2013 12:19 PM
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What a twist, I didn't see that coming.

Next chapter's fight is gonna be insane though.
Feb 13, 2013 12:22 PM
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Holy fucking shit, Ryner and Bertholdt are titans, titatns we already knew on top of that, I'm especially curious about their home village.

They couldn't find a breach in the wall which means that all the titans turned back into humans and are waiting for the furry titan's signal, right?
Feb 13, 2013 12:22 PM
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Well I think now it's pretty obvious that all the titans were once humans.

I think he was suspicious because there might be different factions of titans. Annie, Ryner and Bertholdt killed a lot of humans while Ymir did nothing the whole time and ended up saving a lot of people.

Don't know why Ryner was scared though.

This is only what I think though, I'm probably wrong.

And He probably won't win alone since his opponents are a armored titan and a colossal one xD.
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Feb 13, 2013 12:36 PM
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This is only what I think though, I'm probably wrong.

No, I agree, different factions amongst the titans surely exist, I'm not sure about their origin though, anything is possible considering that we really don't know much about them.

Ryner probably didn't know that Ymir was a titan, so he was surprised that she was able to read those letters which might only be known to intelligent titans.
Feb 13, 2013 12:57 PM
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All the titans want Eren to come with him yet they never explain anything to him, maybe if they would explain their reasoning he would be more inclined to listen to them.
Feb 13, 2013 1:07 PM
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Zhou said:
Munsu said:
This is only what I think though, I'm probably wrong.

No, I agree, different factions amongst the titans surely exist, I'm not sure about their origin though, anything is possible considering that we really don't know much about them.

Ryner probably didn't know that Ymir was a titan, so he was surprised that she was able to read those letters which might only be known to intelligent titans.


Yeah that's probably it. If there are different factions I would like to have a good explanation and no "Titans were always the good guys from the beginning and humans the bad guys" or the other way around.
"So you're saying that something someone besides me has to say could have meaning?" - Excalibur (Soul Eater)

"We impose order on the chaos of organic evolution. You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it."
Feb 13, 2013 1:35 PM
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Found this screencap that explains the revelation of Ryner and Berthold as Titans.
Easy to miss since it's a monthly manga but they are still there.
http://i.imgur.com/6aR04j5.png
Feb 13, 2013 1:43 PM
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Well, I had my suspicions about Ryner, I didn't expect to find out this soon though lol! They said it to Eren so normally. :-o twas a shock. Wow, Eren against the armoured & collosal titan, that... is not gonna be easy.
Feb 13, 2013 1:47 PM

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All I can say is...ARE U FUCKIN KIDDING ME!!!!!
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Kung-Fu-Jesus said:
Found this screencap that explains the revelation of Ryner and Berthold as Titans.
Easy to miss since it's a monthly manga but they are still there.
http://i.imgur.com/6aR04j5.png

Thanks and wow, the hints were all there.
Feb 13, 2013 1:49 PM

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Wow I didn't expect Ryner and Berthold to be titans
Feb 13, 2013 2:43 PM

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Holy fucking shit.....I did not see this coming.

Kung-Fu-Jesus said:
Found this screencap that explains the revelation of Ryner and Berthold as Titans.
Easy to miss since it's a monthly manga but they are still there.
http://i.imgur.com/6aR04j5.png


Thanks for that.
Feb 13, 2013 2:45 PM

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Shit happened.
Feb 13, 2013 3:02 PM

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Oh wow what a twist.
Didn't see that coming, but it seems the hints were dropped everywhere.
I'll just have to look for it in the anime then.
Feb 13, 2013 3:29 PM

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Kung-Fu-Jesus said:
Found this screencap that explains the revelation of Ryner and Berthold as Titans.
Easy to miss since it's a monthly manga but they are still there.
http://i.imgur.com/6aR04j5.png

hey, where's that from?

i'd like to read all of those explanations
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Peralisc said:
Kung-Fu-Jesus said:
Found this screencap that explains the revelation of Ryner and Berthold as Titans.
Easy to miss since it's a monthly manga but they are still there.
http://i.imgur.com/6aR04j5.png

hey, where's that from?

i'd like to read all of those explanations


It's from some guy's post at 4chan.
Can't give you a link since this was posted long before this chapter was released.
He predicted this at about chapter 35 I think, so props to him for paying attention to every small detail out there.

So yeah, apparently Ryner and Annie were working together all along while Ymir kept her secret to herself without Ryner knowing that she was a Titan.

EDIT: After searching a bit, I found that "Reiner = Titan" was a pretty popular theory on 4chan as well as other forums.
http://forums.mangafox.me/threads/367305-I-know-who-the-armored-and-colossal-titans-are...
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Feb 13, 2013 4:58 PM

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What the fuck.

I must have not read the past chapters properly or completely forgot, was a nice twist but IMO the way they revealed that they were titans was a bit too sudden? Let's see what happens.
Feb 13, 2013 6:15 PM
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The sudden revelation was the greatest thing about this chapter. If anyone is familiar with the manga 'cage of eden', you'll know how bad it is to put surprises and revelations on this big pedestrial and drag it out.
They did it perfectly in this chapter, i nearly spat my tea at the screen because i didnt see it coming. Especially not in such a zoomed out frame. Big important stuff is normally told in close ups, but the mangaka blew that rule.
A bit like how quentin tarantino makes things suddenly explode when you'd never expect it.
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Zhou said:
Kung-Fu-Jesus said:
Found this screencap that explains the revelation of Ryner and Berthold as Titans.
Easy to miss since it's a monthly manga but they are still there.
http://i.imgur.com/6aR04j5.png

Thanks and wow, the hints were all there.


What...oh man all these hints and I just read over them like nothing was suspicious. =_= And just wooow. So many titans that are humans and I don't even know anymore. I was also extremely surprised when Ryner just came right out and asked Eren like that. Wow. He must be really sick of risking his life since he has to hide that he is a titan. Anyways, another exciting chapter. Just so many twists in every other chapter. I think the author really knows what he's doing with the manga.
Feb 13, 2013 10:29 PM

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Kung-Fu-Jesus said:
Found this screencap that explains the revelation of Ryner and Berthold as Titans.
Easy to miss since it's a monthly manga but they are still there.
http://i.imgur.com/6aR04j5.png
Thank you!
This chapter was amazing, man, what a revelation. I seriously didn't notice any of this hints, not even one, and I'm kinda glad I didn't since it made me enjoy the surprise.
The only bad thing is that waiting a month to see that battle is gonna kill me.
Currently watching everything that comes out to avoid missing something good...

Feb 13, 2013 11:40 PM
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At first I was like "this is so badass" but 3 minutes later I'm thinking "this is stupid as hell why is everyone a titan".
Feb 13, 2013 11:50 PM

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What a great chapter, I didn't see that coming at all. I think the monkey titan's true identity is gonna be revealed very soon.... curious
Feb 13, 2013 11:51 PM
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That was so stupid why would he say that so nonchalantly and within earshot of everyone
Feb 14, 2013 2:06 AM

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The sudden revelation was the greatest thing about this chapter.


Have to agree there. It had more of a shock impact I think. Because they said it so casually. Then it was just like "o_O now hang on just a minute!' lol

I don't think it was stupid of Ryner to say it right there. I think they might've transformed anyway coz even if Eren agreed to go with, I doubt he would be able to just walk away that easily considering everyone knew Eren is a titan as well. I am curious to know why Ryner suddenly got desperate to get outta there though. Maybe he just had enough because he has no clue who can turn in titans anymore lol
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Feb 14, 2013 2:19 AM

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That was so stupid why would he say that so nonchalantly and within earshot of everyone
I got the feeling that he was fed up of hiding it.

It looks like theres different factions of titans/human-titans, Rhyner/Berthold/Annie are in one, Ymir is in the other, and there's the titans coming from outside which involves the ape titan. The main thing I don't get is why the hell would they (rhyner etc) break the wall..
Feb 14, 2013 10:00 AM

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Kung-Fu-Jesus said:
Peralisc said:
Kung-Fu-Jesus said:
Found this screencap that explains the revelation of Ryner and Berthold as Titans.
Easy to miss since it's a monthly manga but they are still there.
http://i.imgur.com/6aR04j5.png

hey, where's that from?

i'd like to read all of those explanations


It's from some guy's post at 4chan.
Can't give you a link since this was posted long before this chapter was released.
He predicted this at about chapter 35 I think, so props to him for paying attention to every small detail out there.

So yeah, apparently Ryner and Annie were working together all along while Ymir kept her secret to herself without Ryner knowing that she was a Titan.

EDIT: After searching a bit, I found that "Reiner = Titan" was a pretty popular theory on 4chan as well as other forums.
http://forums.mangafox.me/threads/367305-I-know-who-the-armored-and-colossal-titans-are...


thx for the share

Monde11 said:
KanPaTo said:
That was so stupid why would he say that so nonchalantly and within earshot of everyone
I got the feeling that he was fed up of hiding it.

It looks like theres different factions of titans/human-titans, Rhyner/Berthold/Annie are in one, Ymir is in the other, and there's the titans coming from outside which involves the ape titan. The main thing I don't get is why the hell would they (rhyner etc) break the wall..


Ya i noticed that too. But i wonder why does Ymir have a different type of titan background story?

Also it appears Ymir lost her memories of the time she was a titan. Something must have happened ...
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Feb 14, 2013 11:30 AM

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that declaration was a bit sudden xD
good to know berthold and ryner survived mikasa's attack, titan or not they're cool

@Peralisc well yeah, it came really from nowhere

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Feb 14, 2013 11:54 AM

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I find the idea of everyone being a titan a bit hard to swallow. Unless of course, every titan was originally a human... That idea wouldn't surprise me if it turns out to be true. Eren will most likely need Ymir's help fighting against those two powerhouses.

Feb 14, 2013 8:45 PM

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i so didn't saw this coming, what a twist

so ok, Eren might be able to fend off Riner or w/e but what the hell is he gonna do about Bertholdt which is the colossal type?

he gonna get squashed like a fly :))
Feb 14, 2013 11:05 PM

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the first time i read the chapter i was just like "WTH ?"
then just read "flagada" theory and re-read the chapter and found it really cool .. :P
for who wanna know how is this possible , you should read this pdf file :-

http://www.mediafire.com/?4w1a6d4zf6tn8k3

it include the full hints and the pages that was mentioned by flagada in the previous chapter

anyway waiting for the next chapter , especially for the Colossal titan to join the fight .. XD
Feb 15, 2013 4:04 PM

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first i was like "yeah, reiner, suuure" but a few pages later its actually true!?
why did they want to wipe all humans within the walls? they dont need to eat humans or anything like that then why do they want all of them dead? and... why do they need eren...? bertholt should be enough to kill everyone, he is the colossal titan after all...
in my opinion kind of a meh chapter
Feb 16, 2013 1:59 PM

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Kung-Fu-Jesus said:
Found this screencap that explains the revelation of Ryner and Berthold as Titans.
Easy to miss since it's a monthly manga but they are still there.
http://i.imgur.com/6aR04j5.png


Awesome find! Thanks a lot.
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first i was like "yeah, reiner, suuure" but a few pages later its actually true!?
why did they want to wipe all humans within the walls? they dont need to eat humans or anything like that then why do they want all of them dead? and... why do they need eren...? bertholt should be enough to kill everyone, he is the colossal titan after all...
in my opinion kind of a meh chapter


Well there are all of those Titans in the inner walls who could pose a threat to the colossal. Also everything about the Royalty and what's going on is sketchy. There's definitely more to it than just kill all the humans...
Feb 16, 2013 3:37 PM

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Even though the revelation was a surprise (the guy who caught it did a great job) and it was exciting, the fact that 5 human type titans and a link to the conspiracy are in the same rookie squad is very lame.
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Its cool that there are a lot of characters that are titans, but it seems to be getting too many now. It’s sort of expected that a character can turn into a titan. I think that there is going to be a logical explanation for these transformations soon, but it needs to come soon otherwise everyone will be a titan.
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Even though the revelation was a surprise (the guy who caught it did a great job) and it was exciting, the fact that 5 human type titans and a link to the conspiracy are in the same rookie squad is very lame.


They're the only ones we know about atm though. I'm sure there are others. We have just been focusing on the rookie squad.
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It was so anticlimactic yet it's a very creative way of revealing their identities. Well, we've known it since 2011 lol...
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Feb 18, 2013 10:09 AM

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Well I think now it's pretty obvious that all the titans were once humans.

I think he was suspicious because there might be different factions of titans. Annie, Ryner and Bertholdt killed a lot of humans while Ymir did nothing the whole time and ended up saving a lot of people.

Don't know why Ryner was scared though.

This is only what I think though, I'm probably wrong.

And He probably won't win alone since his opponents are a armored titan and a colossal one xD.


Not all of the titans were once human. Think back a couple chapters when the furry Titan marveled at mankind's 3DM gear. I think the human-turned-titan were the result of the experiment which Eren's dad seems to be a part of. There is a greater cause that hasn't been revealed yet.

When Ryner spoke to Ymir about not letting Connie worry about what happened in the village, I can think of two reasons:

1. Ryner didn't know Ymir was a Titan but used her to calm Connie down in the guise that Connie was starting to become delusional. Reality is, he wanted Connie not to think too much about it and find out the truth.

2. Ryner and Ymir both knew each other were Titans.

Second one is out of the question though because we know from Ryner's flashback that Ymir ate one of Ryner's friend. He was visibly shocked that Ymir was the same Titan.

But it gets weird chronologically. Bertholdt and Ryner were the ones who attacked the wall 5 years ago. Then 5 years later which would be the current time when they all joined a division, Ymir in her Titan form killed Ryner's friend. Seems to me they were dragged into this unknown cause for an unknown reason. They aren't necessarily working together. Just following a set of objectives and return to their lives as if nothing happened. In other words, they were unwillingly made Titans but had no choice but to complete their objectives.

Ryner and Bertholdt want to take Eren and Ymir to their village because that's where all the Titans we've seen so far in the last two or three chapters originated from. They must've been hiding this whole time.

Not sure if anyone realized this yet but Mikasa is the only name that's Japanese. Everyone else has a foreign name. Pretty sure she's going to be vital later on in the series.

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Can anyone help me to remember what happen with eren's key ? from the basement of his house...
his father said all his question would be answered if he get there...
but i don't remember they take a look at the basement or they even planned to go in there...
Please (!) T-T
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Can anyone help me to remember what happen with eren's key ? from the basement of his house...
his father said all his question would be answered if he get there...
but i don't remember they take a look at the basement or they even planned to go in there...
Please (!) T-T


Nope they haven't reached the basement yet, they are still inside the 2nd wall and since the 3rd is still ruined they cant go for it because the place is full of titans, so hyped about it x_x !

I think that eren's father will probably turn out to be one off the so called "titan's factions" leader or at least be a major role titan later down the line, to me it all points to either that or him being resposible for the creation of the human/titans ;)

Overall great chapter, anyone knows when the next one will come out?
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10th of March or even later ...
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HOLY FUCK..
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It had some slight ides that the Reiner and Berthold was titans as well, especially the way they have been behaving throughout the manga and their relationship with Annie. Looking forward to the anime and the next chapter now!
Feb 23, 2013 11:11 AM
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what the fuck? let me say that again, what the fuck? I am not happy with this, my problem isn't that there are too many people transforming into titans, my problem is how random it is, not only do I feel like I'm missing some chapters in between but it's like the author just randomly chose two people to play the role, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out eren's mother is the final boss
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I have a theory:
Somehow everything is related to Mikasa. When the titan eated eren's mother, it was because it was his intention, he was ordered to kill eren's father and everyone in there. Because they took care of mikasa, because he was doing some weird research or whatever. Remember mikasa's tattoo, it must have something to do with the titans or "anti-titans" family/clan/ninja/samurai or whatever.
That's some of my ideas, i have a lot but they're really weird.
Feb 26, 2013 10:46 AM

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Shit is getting ridiculous.
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what the fuck? let me say that again, what the fuck? I am not happy with this, my problem isn't that there are too many people transforming into titans, my problem is how random it is, not only do I feel like I'm missing some chapters in between but it's like the author just randomly chose two people to play the role, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out eren's mother is the final boss


Wasn't really random considering there were hints throughout the manga...
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